Reader : I appreciate your views about civilization. I will have to think over them. I cannot take them in all at once. What, then, holding the views you do, would you suggest for freeing India?
Editor : I do not expect my views to be accepted all of a sudden. My
duty is to place them before readers like yourself. Time can be trusted
to do the rest. We have already examined the conditions for freeing
India, but we have done so indirectly; we will now do so directly. It is
a world-known maxim that the removal of the cause of a disease results
in the removal of the disease itself. Similarly if the cause of India's
slavery be removed, India can become free.
Reader : If Indian civilization is, as you say, the best of all, how do
you account for India's slavery?
Editor : This civilization is unquestionably the best, but it is to be
observed that all civilizations have been on their trial. That
civilization which is permanent outlives it. Because the sons of India
were found wanting, its civilization has been placed in jeopardy. But
its strength is to be seen in its ability to survive the shock.
Moreover, the whole of India is not touched. Those alone who have been
affected by Western civilization have become enslaved. We measure the
universe by our own miserable foot-rule. When we are slaves, we think
that the whole universe is enslaved. Because we are in an abject
condition, we think that the whole of India is in that condition. As a
matter of fact, it is not so, yet it is as well to impute our slavery to
the whole of India. But if we bear in mind the above fact, we can see
that if we become free, India is free. And in this thought you have a
definition of Swaraj. It is Swaraj when we learn to rule ourselves. It
is, therefore, in the palm of our hands. Do not consider this Swaraj to
be like a dream. There is no idea of sitting still. The Swaraj that I
wish to picture is such that, after we have once realized it, we shall
endeavour to the end of our life-time to persuade others to do likewise.
But such Swaraj has to be experienced, by each one for himself. One
drowning man will never save another. Slaves ourselves, it would be a
mere pretension to think of freeing others. Now you will have seen that
it is not necessary for us to have as our goal the expulsion of the
English. If the English become Indianized, we can accommodate them. If
they wish to remain in India along with their civilization, there is no
room for them. It lies with us to bring about such a state of things.
Reader : It is impossible that Englishmen should ever become Indianized.
Editor : To say that is equivalent to saying that the English have no
humanity in them. And it is really beside the point whether they become
so or not. If we keep our own house in order, only those who are fit to
live in it will remain. Others will leave of their own accord. Such
things occur within the experience of all of us.
Reader : But it has not occurred in history.
Editor : To believe that what has not occurred in history will not occur
at all is to argue disbelief in the dignity of man. At any rate, it
behaves us to try what appeals to our reason. All countries are not
similarly conditioned. The condition of India is unique. Its strength is
immeasurable. We need not, therefore, refer to the history of other
countries. I have drawn attention to the fact that, when other
civilizations have succumbed, the Indian has survived many a shock.
Reader : I cannot follow this. There seems little doubt that we shall
have to expel the English by force of arms. So long as they are in the
country we cannot rest. One of our poets say that slaves cannot even
dream of happiness. We are day by day becoming weakened owing to the
presence of the English. Our greatness is gone; our people look like
terrified men. The English are in the country like a blight which we
must remove by every means.
Editor : In your excitement, you have forgotten all we have been
considering. We brought the English, and we keep them. Why do you forget
that our adoption of their civilization makes their presence in India at
all possible? Your hatred against them ought to he transferred to their
civilization. But let us assume that we have to drive away the English
by fighting, how is that to be done?
Reader : In the same way as Italy did it. What was possible for Mazzini
and Garibaldi is possible for us. You cannot deny that they were very